Die and Become! Death in Dreams

Die and Become! Till Thou Hast learned this, Thou are but a dull guest on this dark planet. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

There was an antiquated belief that if you dreamed you died in your sleep then you would actually die in waking life. Of course, this is an old wives’ tale but there is something unsettling about witnessing death in a dream.

And something wise.

Let’s face it, death is a taboo subject in our culture. And many of us are ill-prepared for that final journey into the unknown. But engaging with the ‘symbolic deaths’ like our shadow or darker parts of ourselves that need to go can be a powerful experience.

When we face death in this way, a new part of us can be reborn.

Death symbols as shadow stuff

The Alchemists actually rejoiced when death showed up in dreams. The more repugnant the better.[pullquote]The Alchemists actually rejoiced when death showed up in dreams. The more repugnant the better. [/pullquote]For them it was the prima materia or ‘first material’ before being separated into the four elements: earth, fire, air and water. Death is one of the most powerful tools for personal empowerment, transformation and healing. It was where the “gold” was located.

Dr. Carl Gustav Jung rediscovered that bridge between alchemy and psychology and thus voraciously collected alchemical works of antiquity, uncovering the treasures or “gold” buried underneath the complex symbolism.

Jung discovered the alchemical processes like mortifactio or putrifactio (death and decomposition) were prevalent in working with prima materia or shadow stuff. Dreaming of rotting corpses, decomposed material, worms, swamps (even decapitated heads!) were seen an indication that you were ready to work on part of the self that were rigid and needed transforming.

This symbology also included the dreaming of fecal matter.

Poop dreams

[pullquote]What could be more poetic than a poop dream?[/pullquote]What could be more poetic than a poop dream? That icky act we would rather not speak about was actually celebrated by the Alchemists. It represents what we need to let go of–what is repulsive and shameful— unconscious material that needs to be looked at and transformed. (see also Ryan’s article on urine dreams).

Excrement is fertilizer after all and what is more potent for growth than that!

Sometimes animals were the prima materia in dreams like the (gold!) dung beetle who feeds partly or exclusively on feces. As the holy scarab in Egyptian mythology of death and rebirth  who is tied to Khepri (“he who has come into being”), the god of the rising sun, this is a poweful energy of transformation.

An example of a poop dream I received recently:

I am with two young girls and we are entering a building that is made for healing. We try to find a bathroom but it is not private. There are people here and the stalls have no doors or privacy. Then I find that the door to the bathroom leads to another door that is more private bathroom.

We can all go in together. The toilet is almost three feet above the ground and I climb on top and to my shame fill up the bowl with poop! What’s even more mortifying (Alchemy!) is that I cannot flush it down. The girls come over to investigate which makes me uncomfortable though they are not. They want to help.

I realize that I pushed the half flush button (which is black) like you find in Europe and I needed to push the full flush, white button. I push it and it works! The girls are happy and I am relieved…

Looking at this dream, I realize that an uncomfortable area in my life is asking for help or assistance. I often feel vulnerable and overly concerned for the other which often results in me not fully communicating my needs (half flush) and the need to fully commit and speak my truth (full flush). The young girls feel like the budding parts of myself (prima materia also includes dreams of children) that are becoming conscious of this material and are supporting me. In alchemy the black and white usually indicate an integration is taking place.

Kill or be killed

Sometimes it is too difficult to “own” our shadow stuff –both the flaws and the gold which might not necessarily be mutually exclusive. And that part needs to be “killed off.”

Robert L. Johnson writes so eloquently of this in his book Owning Your Own Shadow: “Curiously, people resist the noble aspects of their shadow more strenuously than they hide the dark sides. To draw the skeletons out of the closet is relatively easy, but to own the gold in the shadow is terrifying. It is more disrupting to find that you have a profound nobility of character than to find out you are a bum. Of course you are both; but one does not discover these two elements at the same time.”

[pullquote]This projection of shadow stuff is powerfully illustrated in our dreams when we decide to commit, witness a murder or become the murder victim ourselves.[/pullquote]

It is important to note who or what is doing the killing, paying close attention to characteristics. If it is a vampire, are you dealing with lifeless, bloodsucking energy in your life?

How about a family member or a childhood friend? Perhaps there are parts of life or patterns that need “killing off” in terms of character traits/people/situations/habits that no longer serve.

Once we face our fears and become conscious, we can “transform the energy.”

Initiation Dreams

Perhaps the dream is something bigger than you: A spiritual calling into the larger Mysteries that may require a sacrifice.

Such “Big Dreams” include death and rebirth themes or visions like being swallowed by a sea monster,  dismembered and put together again or struck by lightning, drowned or burned alive!

And still others, their rite of passage may have been an illness, accident or near death experience that evoked strange dreams, prophetic visions and spontaneous healing abilities.

Overall, initiation dreams can be scary for most people who fear making dramatic life changes that often may call for a sacrifice in the form of jobs, loved ones and belief systems or a complete change in way of life.

Preparing for Death

[pullquote]The most profound reason we might dream of death is to prepare for our own.[/pullquote]

Tibetan Buddhists view death as a natural state and envision the afterlife just like a dream. This is clearly illustrated in the most famous text of Padma Sambhava in the 8th century A.D. The Tibetan Book of the Dead  or the Bardo Thodol is an actual guide book to prepare the dying for the afterlife.

The Bardo Thodol teaches that once awareness is freed from the body, it creates its own reality as one would experience in a dream. This dream occurs in various phases (bardos) in ways both wonderful and terrifying.

So whether we like it or not, death is all around us and a fact of life. But hopefully when Death comes knocking in your dreams, perhaps you will be ready to answer the door and welcome her with open arms and a change of heart.

Remember our dreams will always guide us towards our fears so we may face them and grow from it.

Have you witnessed death in a dream?

In what form?

How did it affect your life?

Please share your experinces and thoughts with comments.

Linda Mastrangelo

Linda believes dreams can transform individuals & bring communities together. Her research, art & therapeutic work run the gamut from spiritual alchemy to ancestral knowledge to altered states of consciousness. SF Dream Research Examiner SF Examiner and Empact Institute

16 Responses to Die and Become! Death in Dreams

  • Katrina says:

    Linda, this is fantastic. Love all the connections and the way you make talking about death and poop so much fun! Time to go back and look at my recent poop dreams to see what’s transforming…

    • Linda says:

      Thanks Katrina! You’ve got to love the Alchemists for praising poop! It reminds me of the Buddhist monk, Pema Chödrön, who discusses the practice of ‘sitting in the fire of your direct experience’ and burning karmic seeds… I would love to see some poop dream sharing…perhaps feeling “crappy” will take on a whole new meaning!

  • Nicole says:

    Thank you for this.

    A few months ago I dreamed that I was in an huge building that was supposed to be my apartment which was positioned high up in some sort of giant complex. I was looking for a shower but I could not find one. When I did find one I noticed all my family and friends sitting on 4 long tables about to start eating. I did not want to use that shower in front of everyone. I decided to leave and said goodbye. I went down to the basement of the complex which appeared as a vast number of underground winding roads. There were many nightclubs and bars it was dark and dirty. I found myself in a very dingy place then i saw a man wearing a long white robe running his back was covered in blood a moment later there was an explosion and my body was flung up into the air I could taste the bomb in my mouth I knew that my body was exploding and I was dying. I let go of my body and then I woke up.

    This was very unsettling for me. I had been working through some issues in my life and was experiencing a lot of anxiety at the time which was manifesting into physical symptoms. At first I thought that I might really die! But after some consideration I cane to the understanding that in the dream looking for a shower was a way for me to cleanse myself from the past. Having all my family and friends sitting at the tables meant to me that I did not feel comfortable to bring us all the past stuff with them. Leaving the tables means to me that I am letting go of other peoples expectations and judgements. Going down into this basement like structure means that i am going deep into my own stuff. The explosion was my feelings of anxiety and the physical symptoms i was experiencing, dizziness, headache, muscle pain, blurred vision and fatigue. The death was letting go of it all.

    I did experience a transition. If was very difficult but I am grateful for it.

    Thank you for the opportunity to share.
    Peace. Love.

    • Linda says:

      Powerful post and share, Nicole. I am moved by your holding of this dream…it does read like a classic initiation dream which can be so terrifying and unsettling. I applaud your bravery for traversing into the darkness…I am especially taken by the phrase “I go down into the basement of the complex.” Jung held the number 4 in dreams as the symbol of the Self and wholeness. Wow…thank you.

  • I used to die pretty regularly in my dreams – everything from drowning, to getting hit by a bus, to being shot. Each time, I’d feel it happen, and then everything would go black. From there, I’d slowly wake up feeling oddly rested, and at peace.

    Haven’t had one of these dreams in years, but they were pretty frequent when I was a kid.

  • Linda says:

    Love the share, Kevin! And not surprised given your life’s work and deep research/scholarship on death,dying and the afterlife in dreams.

  • sylvie.bossuat@orange.fr says:

    It’s a dream I made On september 14th and I feel very curious about it.

    I’m in a cemetery. A group of graves, well delimited, are aligned on several rows . No gravestones. Some seem to be opened. I’m standing in the very narrow space between the graves . I must keep my balance to not fall in the mud and the decomposing bodies . The ground is slippery. I ask a man who is on the edge to help me rise and get out of this space of graves. He gives me his hands and hoist me up. I’m relieved.

    At the same time, what strikes me is an old woman, her head covered with a hood, who is bent down with her harms plunged into the ground to grab what I suppose is the dead’s head. And she is so…happy! She’s screaming with joy!!!

    feeling: nauseated, relieved and…curious . What is she doing? Why is she so happy?

    This year I had some dreams with opened graves but my feelings were relatively neutral.I don’t go to cemeteries.

    My intend the day before was to meet my guide and have some help to experiment an out of body experience, safely .

  • Linda says:

    Thanks for the share, Sylvie. This is a classic prima materia dream! It has all the ingredients, death, decomposition, and what the alchemists would call the beginning stages of the Great Work. Perhaps the intention gives the clues to what is being worked on…gaining allies/guides (the man hoisting you up) and the old woman (croan) digging joyfully for the head (the nigredo stage is the first stage so ‘heads’ are metaphorically appropriate) would indicate that energy of wanting new experiences (material/OBE) which would call for more open attitudes/shifts out of the old ways. It’s a ‘slippery’ endeavor but it’s also clear there’s guidance for the go ‘ahead’ (pun intended). Wonderful!

  • Amy says:

    Very interesting to read this article! I’d been having increasing dreams about death over the past couple of years, which are quite curious at times, but then in the past 6 months or so dreams of poop and cleaning out old… well crap (literally and figuratively!).

    Including one in which I’m not only pooping but vomiting poop at the same time, which gave me some imagery to work with. :)

    These dreams have helped lead me back deeper in to my true self and it’s quite the journey…

    • Linda Mastrangelo says:

      Love this dream share, Amy! I love the wisdom here of cleaning out the old to make way for the new. I am also intrigued with the vomiting aspect. I imagine speaking our truth is involved in this process as well. Thanks for the share and keep us posted!

  • Linda Seay-Skaggs says:

    In my dream there is someone with a naked, very large butt standing on a round table pooping into a glass with 2 handles. I have a hold on one handle, another female holding the other.
    We run around the table to catch the poop and I am surprized how the poop is coming out exactly like ice-cream filling a cone.
    Woke up and pondered how this applied in my life. At the time I had a friend very large, well rounded. Many times she’d bring up things in a nice, sweet way, then keep on and on and get upset. They were petty. She said her motto was to say how she felt then let go. No, she harped and wouldn’let go but “expected” me to listen.

    She caused a lot of unnessary pressure and get upset. Nothing I said appeased her.
    Our relationship got so polluted with her stuff, I bowed out
    and feel no regret.

    • Linda Mastrangelo says:

      Great share, Linda! Such a striking image! I love your insight on this dream, especially connecting it to this friend who pooped in a sweet way (like icecream!) and the expectaion of you to catch it all! Glad you acted on it…sounds very healthy and wise.

  • Hi Linda,

    This is terrific. I had a vivid dream in which someone came into my home and stabbed me to death. At first I fought, but I thought, I can’t fight this anymore, and so I relaxed and just allowed him to stab me. I could feel eery bit of it, but thought, “Hey, this doesn’t hurt. Whoever told me if you die in a dream, you die for real didn’t know about this. It isn’t true.” As the man stabbed and stabbed, I drifted away from my body and found myself
    above it, looking down on the scene.

    An ambulance had come and was removing my blood-soaked body, covered in white sheets. Someone standing next to me (over my left shoulder) said urgently, “You have to fight, you have to fight this!” I replied, “I can’t now. You see? I’m already dead.”

    This an many other dreams during this period of my life gave me much to work with and heal in my life. I began to dream in mythological terms and found answers to these in the work of both Jung and Joseph Campbell. I’ve come to love going to sleep just to see what adventures I will encounter and how to use the experiences to continue internal work. Sometimes I dream about homeopathic remedies my clients need, or I’ll have intuitive dreams that help me in my work or other areas.

    Great stuff! I’m so glad you do this work. ;-)

    • Linda Mastrangelo says:

      Thanks for the incredible share, Valerie! I love the wisdom here and the courage to ‘shift’ in the dream. It can be disconcerting to see your own dead body there but there seemed to be a trust or higher wisdom at work letting you know this was not all there is and to trust in the process. You have great allies in Campbell and Jung…glad you are doing the work and using dreams to help others. Please keep us posted on the great work you are doing!

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